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For those like me brought up in the care system this is going to be aweful. Not only those but people trying to leave an abusive situation will be forced to stay




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... r-25s.html

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I thought things were bad when I at 17 in the care home system. I was "prepared" for outside life. I was placed in a house with assorted rejects of society, alcholics, prostitutes and drug users. The house was victorian three story with 3 of us to a room.

As bad as it was (and it WAS bad) where is this type of person supposed to go with this new housing benefits ban.
My father died at 5 and I have no knowledge of whereabouts of mother to this day. Where would I go? What would I do?

This is truly truly aweful

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Should have seen it coming when they upped the one-room rate to under-35s.

I left home at 19. I couldn't have done that without housing benefit. If I'd stayed living with my mum, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that one of us would probably be dead by now. Two people with mental health problems, who essentially make each other worse, isn't a good combination.

Expect worse to come, Cameron and his two stooges IDS and Grayling are hell bent on creating a disenfranchised underclass comprised of the sick, the long term unemployed, and those that have slipped through the ever more flimsy net of support.

This coalition government is in complete and utter denial of the crippling lack of jobs and opportunities which would be the means for many of these groups to get a foothold onto some kind of stable life, their solution is to force these groups into destitution and homelessness, the measure of a civilised society is how it treats it's vulnerable citizens the very old, the very young, and the sick/disabled, so by any measure we currently live in an uncivilised society one that punishes it's citizens for being poor, or in frail health.

In some respects we are descending into an era that will not only rival the poverty of Victorian England but will exceed it, the Victorians had at least the odious workhouses we don't even have those for the 'feckless' as our leaders are fond of calling the unfortunate members of society that weren't born into wealth and status.

This country held a much cherished reputation for fair play, and freedom of speech, a country whose inhabitants knew that there was a helping hand in time of need, this government have taken those values shredded them and ground them into the gutter.

I have seen the word feckless being thrown at anyone under 25 claiming housing benefit. In my teens like the other people in the house I spoke about I was more vunerable than feckless. With my educational background and the jobs market at the time I was never going to earn enough to pay my own rent without help.

Today even the mininum wage is lower for under 25s. Many motivated young people working will not be able to afford even the lowest of rents with help.

We then come to those who cannot live a home with parents or partners due to abuse either domestic or emotional abuse. What happens to them?

I know the gov say they will make exceptions. We already know with ESA how "the most vunerable will be supported". So not much hope there.

This will only come into force if the CONS win the next election.

The CONS think Cameron is not tough enough on welfare and according to pundits including Andrew Neils Politics Programme Michael Gove with the backing of back bench and other ministers will be the new leader.

Gawd help us all

As Jo Swinson Libdem MP said about disabled commiting suicide over benefit cuts "Things are worse in Burma"

ARE THEY?

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Your anger is tangible in this post Miss B and rightly so.

"This will only happen if the Conservatives win the next election "

God forbid this should happen - many thousands of us would be filled with total and utter despair and I for one would upsticks and beg my relatives in Oz to take me in !

One young mother tells us how returning to live with her parents, as David Cameron suggests, is not an option: http://bit.ly/PUlnNd #c4news
Retweeted by John Cresswell-Plant

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That was a LibDem MP who said that?

I thought they were supposed to be on our side.

When I saw a documentry on TV recently about the conditions in the USA I was shocked, Tent Cities all over the place, is that what this Gov. wants and people living under the bridges, also an individual who had a hernia for so long it had got infected when he went to a free charitable consultation and they said to goto hospital, went couldnt afford the 30,000 dollers, so the programme at end said he had gone home to die!!!!!!!!! and this Gov. is trying to copy there welfare system !!!!!!! I was absolutely shocked!!!

Steve

This proposal is disgusting. These people don't live in the real world. I suppose if you have been born into a household with money and priveledge they just don't get that many young people cannot stay at home. but I suppose by bringing this up now it is deflecting the focus of his tax evading friends!!!

Of course, didn't you know, everyone under the age of 25 is fit for work, easily able to get a job, and their earnings are quite adequate to afford them private rented accommodation or the first rung on a ladder as a home owner.

There's far too much idealism in this Govt, people need rude awakenings to the reality of what it's like to be poor. Unfortunately I don't think darling Camboy ever knew what it was like to go hungry or worry about whether he was getting the sofa or the floor to sleep on.

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Keep calm and... WTF? keep calm??

I spent most of my formative years in a abusive family environment. When i turned 17, after working as a Youth Trainee at Rumbelows, i joined the Army. Now, after leaving there, i found work in the Hotel and Catering industry as a Jnr Manager for a large hotel in North Wales. It wasn't until later in years that i found i had medical problems and needed the help of the benefits system. Yes, i can and do claim Housing Benefit, but i'm 37 and only just scrape through the age limit. My son is 18 years old, and while he's a Mummy's Boy, he will one day want to fly the nest and start a life on his own. but how can he do that if he's severly restricted on where he can live, given that he's only allowed up to £55 a week? Ok, yes, he's fit and healthy, but the jobs market is nowhere near as strong as it used to be. He's trying hard to better himself, and has succeeded in college, but without experience due to his youth, he's pretty much scuppered from the off. He's even thought about joining the Army like i once did, but his reasons were because it's a job.

Removing benefits and restricting what people can and can't have is all well and good if it worked, but it doesn't. Now everyone, regardless of age is being penalized by this government, a government that only wants to reduce it's debt, and trample over those that really need a helping hand in the process.

It's as simple as this folks; Limit what help can be given, and you limit possibilities and potential for those who one day will pay it back in spades.