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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:00 pm 
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hi, popped into local NHS dentist to ask if i could get treated / check up and if it would cost me, they said it would
be for free as i was on ESA, so they asked for proof, i took esa proof, they signed me up, then i had some treatment, over 2 visits, at no charge.

Few weeks later recieved letter from nhs, routine check unable, so please send proof of esa and fill in questionnaire.
totally forgot about this, was going to go to dentist to sort it out. then i get another letter from nhs, ie pentalty charge notice and fine, totalling a sum of over £300! if dont pay, debt recovery, county court, more charges.

So i go to my dentist with my paperwork, they say if im on esa its fine, there should be no costs and thats its between me and the nhs as dentist did not charge me, so i need to proov to them now. So im now so stressed and already got mental health problems and awaiting urgent psychiatrist help and on some strong medication...i dont how to deal with this.

I cant afford this cost, i only went to dentist as they said it was free to me.

looking at my esa paperwork and nhs letters, i think it might be to do with income based esa or contribution based.
around the same time of dental treatment i was switched from one to another, i believe from contribution to income, but the switch over date was just after dental treatment, but surely the dentist would have checked this? i took some ESA paperwork with me to dentist and they inspected it and gave me the go ahead for free treatment.

the dentist has assured me, all esa claiments do not have to pay, twice now.

do i need to go to cab?
debt advisor?

i dont know how to deal with this. i simply can not afford this Fee, i am in debt and cant even afford rent and food, im overdrawn, and on esa, unfit to work, no savings.

can anyone advise please? thankyou


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:10 pm 
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samantha123 wrote:
looking at my esa paperwork and nhs letters, i think it might be to do with income based esa or contribution based.
around the same time of dental treatment i was switched from one to another, i believe from contribution to income, but the switch over date was just after dental treatment, but surely the dentist would have checked this? i took some ESA paperwork with me to dentist and they inspected it and gave me the go ahead for free treatment.

the dentist has assured me, all esa claiments do not have to pay, twice now.

do i need to go to cab?
debt advisor?


The dentist sounds a little incompetent - NOT all patients on ESA would qualify for free treatment, only those on Income Based ESA as you say. If on Contribution Based ESA it would have to be means tested, and you would probably have to claim it back from the DWP, on the grounds of low income and no savings. If you switched from one type to the other at around this time it shows you obviously passed the means test.

Yes, I would go to CAB and get advice on this. What the NHS are doing sending you a 'penalty fine' is quite beyond me.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:51 pm 
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Hi Samantha123,

www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/DentalServices/Docume ... idance.pdf

this is a leaflet about penalties which may help explain the situation.

There is a link at the bottom of my post to various advocacy service. MIND maybe able to offer advice via email or telephone, as its usually a wait for specialist appointments with CAB.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:13 pm 
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Thankyou all.
Cab are helping me, CAB contacted NHS, and it was suggested by NHS that I appeal this charge/fine, by getting a letter to support my case from my GP, stating im not well, with mental health difficulties and so therefore was unable to determine the diff between the diff types of ESA and what dental fees were relevant in my case when dealing with dentist,

dentist still seems to think i shouldnt have to pay,

so im going to send various esa paperwork /letters to NHS, explain the situation, proove my illnesses/treatments,
along with doctors letter. send it all off to NHS, see if they can reconsider.

just wondering, what do i need to tell doctor to write exactly? situations like this, i thikn the wording is important,
just want to make sure my gp writes a suitable letter in my favour. I think this letter will cost me too, GP charges for stuff
like this i believe.


thanks.


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